See what your first try is like, you can always tart it up as you go along. For some, growing tobacco is an absolute obsessionand its easy to see why! I have grown some and do not want to ferment it. Awesome article!!! Answer: You can surely use a humidifier and see how it goes. The place else may just I get that type of info written in such a perfect way? The same rules apply: pinch out or otherwise remove them. This has several advantages: If you want to enhance the flavour of your smoke, dissolve a little honey in a couple teaspoons of alcohol (port, rum, vodka, or moonshine) and dribble it in as you cut your leaf. Store the tobacco in a room between 60 to 95 F (16 to 35 C) to cure it. Any suggestions? Live in California. A lot of tobaccos's taste sweetens with salt - folks will mix maybe a 1/4 teaspon of salt in 8-10 ounces of distilled water, lay the tobacco out on a tray, mist it with the salty solution, allow to dry and then put it in the curing jars. Chopping can be left until after the compression/ageing if preferred. This is better for cigars and pipe tobacco. Content is for informational or entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for personal counsel or professional advice in business, financial, legal, or technical matters. Answer: Yes, The way I know of is to spray the rum/wine/honey solution or whatever on the dry or near dry leaves with a garden mister. Question Give them a dose of general garden fertiliser now and again. - "Keep it simple, and if it works don't fix it!" In fact, each capsule has dozens of seeds, so one picking of ready seed-heads is more than ample unless you have several acres you want to plant out. !, i want to ask you why? Put jar in kiln. Allow 2 meters headroom if you keep them inside and remember to pick out the sideshoots growing in the leaf joins (just like tomatoes do) they can be planted too for a later crop. 7 years ago Answer: Home grown tobacco doesn't naturally stay burning. The seed will have adapted to your environment. The most obvious answer, but not necessarily the right one, is trying different seeds. Im growing in mini greenhouses in a south facing window. Fermentation also stabilizes the leaf so that it doesn't decompose further in storage. I'd suggest that you leave them for the time being but monitor them and if the spots increase noticeably remove the offenders. Death to all bullfrogs, bumptious bureaucrats and politicians!! Answer: Until the leaves are dry and brown/yellow, after hanging, several weeks or in an oven at low heat an hour or so. Jars can also be an alternative to cellaring in the tin. Using a solution of honey or something sweet may help also. Yuk, you can buy them from https://ausseeds.com/, Please email us a complete pamphlet about the steps from planting to harvesting tobacco and how to dry and make cigarettes. You could try misting the almost dry leaves with alcohol, like rum or vodka. Answer: The bottom leaves are possibly ready to harvest, I can't accurately assess why some of your leaves have white spots as it's a problem that I haven't encountered so far. What we are shooting for in this phase is 70% RH maximum. The shortest cure was 5 days and the longest cure was an initial 3 weeks followed by 6 - 8 more weeks in jars. What you will need:-Air cured Tobacco leaves, Seeds with growing instructions are available here : Many thanks. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. Do you have any advice on how to grow these for cigars? A factory barn with hundreds of thousands of hands fermenting, wellthat would be a whole different level of aroma.Q: Surf Monkey Coconut, your insurance agent called me looking for you. Let them dry out on the plant. If you live elsewhere, check your local legislation to ensure that you're operating within the law. When the leaves are brown and the edges have curled slightly, the process is complete. During the fermentation, there are several aromatic stages: Basically you need heat (approx 120 degrees) and humidity of about 75%, if this can be sustained for approx 4-6 weeks, fermentation will be complete. When ordering tobacco seeds online, be sure to check importing restrictions. This process takes about 3-4 weeks.2) Fermentation: Sweating out ammonia, and a few other complicated chemical processes. The grow fast so don't start them too early, time it for the optimum outdoor transplant date. Fred Hanna has a method of quickly aging tobacco. For three months of winter, we have occasional light frosts, bitterly strong winds, and some hail. only grown one plant this year. I know people who smoke tobacco at every shade, as the whim and their approach to curing takes them, and they seem no worse off than off the shelf smokers. Anyway that is soo cool. Cheers. As Mrs. Beeton once said: "To make jugged hare, first catch your hare." Wash off any dirt, though. Hi we live in sunny Bay of Plenty and want to give it a go. Really its just a foam cooler with a $5 light from Home Depot now Oct. 26, 2011 UPDATE: In the final version of this fermenter, a (I simply used a cooler with no air holes, just one hole punched at the top for the light fixture). Growing and harvesting is a perquisite to fermentation covered in other guides, available here . Question: Do you think putting a few dried mint leaves in with my tobacco leaves will give it a menthol taste? Also how do you keep the humidity. It should take about 4-8 weeks for the leaves to dry out entirely, but it may take longer depending on the variety of tobacco and your climate. I have 4 that I cycle between curing jars to monitor humidity in the jars. How does humidity affect the rate of fermenting? Note: I'll continue this in feet and inches only, for the sake of our American cousins. Would also be interested to read the article you mentioned on distilling but can't find it? Pick whichever leaves are ready, and cut a slit near the stem end of the centre rib of each leaf. It may give the bud a little better burn just like you can add a leaf to a jar for a short time to keep the bud from drying out. and spray it finely on the dried leaves with a garden mister. The ultra dry leaves sucked up the alcohol (not too much or u get a soggy mess) and became pliable again. By signing up you are agreeing to receive emails according to our privacy policy. the pic was just of some plants that had mold growth on them. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Also without an insulator, there would be a lot of heat loss, you would need higher temps than a psudo greenhouse.The cooler method traps in heat, but because the seals are not air tight there seems to be a lot of air exchange going on. The site loading pace is amazing. If they show signs of yellowing before this, pick them straight away. -Week 1-2 smells like wet grass. Well heres hoping! The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on July 17, 2018: Try misting the dried leaves with a mixture of oil of cloves (from the chemist) and water. Good luck growing! I then dip the jar, short of the lid, back into the boiling water using the tongs. Question: I bought some homegrown tobacco but it has a dark greenish look to it. Once this is done I remove it from its leaf stems. There are 9 references cited in this article, which can be found at the bottom of the page. wikiHow is where trusted research and expert knowledge come together. Does the Brod and Taylor bread proofing cabinet work good for cureing tobacco? Question: When growing and curing tobacco at home, do we do a fermentation/sweating process after drying? This seems a good place to take you by the hand and walk you through some basic arithmetic if you haven't already done so yourself. I'm doing it with potatoes. Hello! Isn't it possible to sterilize the pile of tobacco and stop all the fermentation by having temperature too high? Don't look now, but you've probably already done itwell enough for the average punter, at least. Youll need to keep the humidity relatively high to keep the leaves from drying too quickly. When you cure [organic] Cannabis buds, youre breaking down compounds in the resin into new compounds. Question: What strain of tobacco do you grow? Tobacco seedlings ready for transplanting outside in the sun. Answer: The best time is November, give or take, but January's fine for a later crop. If you hit 71% or greater, you will have to take the bud out to dry more. (I could spare the bullfrogs.). Most strains, though, will be good enough to smoke after two-three weeks, but the longer you leave the buds to cure, the better - four to eight weeks may be the optimal time. Start by putting your dried buds in your chosen curing jars. In this fermenter, these conditions are achieved by a light bulb heat source, directed by a reflector dish towards the pile of air cured tobacco under it. I joined the hub just to thank you.). Water them thoroughly and then keep watering to prevent the dirt from drying out. Thanks for putting it together, at least I know what a tobacco plant looks like now. Answer: I remove the stems because they're woody and would produce lumpy tobacco. Dedicated home growers use old refrigerators with a heat source. I just save some seed year by year. Do you think theyll go ok in there until after the last frost of winter? An air-conditioned home would probably be too dry for air-curing tobacco. Keep their soil moist but not soggy when they're young. It realy increase my knowledge about the topic. You'll have lots of them. Also worked very well last year on fully dried tobacco. Having my first try at it and given I'm in the far north east of Scotland I'm having quite good results so far, that said been an unusually good Sumer. Notice the orange ring in the image below. Cold and frost will affect your crop yield. I think I'll give this a go - nothing to lose, all my hair is already goneand I might learn a thing or two! Fermentation is the trickiest part, and is what this instructable is intended to outline. Question: I am a cigar smoker and I often put my stubs in my wife's flower bed. Fill the jars about three quarters of the way, leaving the other quarter empty. Reactions: Oldfella, Charly, Knucklehead and 1 other person S Smileysmile66 Active Member Joined Apr 5, 2019 Messages 25 Points 3 Location Stockholm, Sweden The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on June 07, 2014: Sorry mate, I can't help you there, I've no experience at this rather covert way of growing bacci'. This is just 3 hands of tobacco and it does have quite the aroma associated with it! In any case I will be subscribing for your rss feed and I am hoping you write again very soon! Stand the container in a dish so that you can water it without soaking the carpet. By using our site, you agree to our. March-June,get started TODAY! Once your bud is in the jar drop in the hygrometer and cap it. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. If it's too rainy or it gets too much water, the tobacco gets weak and thin. James' book The Heirloom Tobacco Garden and i've been excited to try his method using jars. Harvesting: Fully grown leaves (and no, It's not me!). I have found your article and follow everything as you recommended but in the end, I am disappointed. If you feel that yours is too green(and limp) still, try putting some in an oven at a low heat (100c or less) for half an hour or more to dry it to a better colour. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on March 15, 2014: [img]http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm292/biguran/s[/img], GOT it, Prilep 66, oriental fom macedonia, and i love it, has a taste like diped in honey, TY Mr. TOF :), im getting some cured orientals prilep 66, will try and let you know. Reply Hanging Tobacco Leaves for Drying 1 Dry tobacco in the fall for the best results. On the tobacco front. Regarding smoking the tobacco though, cigarette and pipe tobacco available commercially is a bit "moist" and pliable. There are other ways to grow tobacco and other ways to cure the stuff. I'm sure they will be benefited from this web site. Tobacco is an age old, yet amazing plant, which has become increasingly popular among hobbyist in recent times! You don't mention this stage, what are your thoughts on fermentation? But to me, all of these smells were delicious!! on Introduction. I retired about 19 years ago and in 2013 attended a BBQ organised by my wife's Tai Chi Club. A neighbour hangs his leaves in a carport to dry, then presses them in a shallow wooden box with a bit of plank on top and a weight (gallon drum full of water) rolls up the end product and slices thin with a sharp knife. We have seeds. Firstly, a warning: smoking can be bad for your health. How soon before I can smoke them? I've found this setup makes the temperature get much too high, (due to the excellent insulation of the cooler, the cooler gets cumulatively hotter and hotter). Your details are useful.". WISH ME LUCK FOLKS THE GOVT DAMN SURE DOESN'T ASTHEY WATCH THERE TAX DOLLARS EVAPORATE. Otherwise, just bite the bullet and buy an extra box of matches. But they are surely processed differently. or should i ferment tobacco leaves for good taste?, thanks a lot. Answer: It shouldn't make any difference. Commercially it used to have saltpeter (potassium nitrate) added to keep it going, although I don't know what's used now. Do you ferment leaves for smoking tobacco? I borrowed from the butchering industry and got a bunch of J fish hooks, strung them on some fishing line and use that for drying. A good recommended fill blend for a home grown cigar is 30% Havana leaf and 70% Virginia leaf with a Havana wrapper. I don't really monitor the humidity too much, I just give it 15-20 distilled water misting on and between the hands about 2-3 times a day, just to keep the leaves semi-moist. Don't humidify kiln to prevent rusty lids. Ive a venture that I am just now running on, and Ive been on the look out for such information. Our politicians will waste tens of millions on a futile flag referendum (and then probably twist the results - the head of the CIA visited last week) then they tax the Hell out of smokers - over 90% of the retail cost of tobacco returns to the government in some form of taxation (a conservative estimation) but smokers are denied the medical treatment of others as they "caused their own problems". This is predominately a writers/informational blog, but can be quite social in its comments, as you may have noted above. Have you ever tried soaking leaves to flavour them? Here are a couple things to be on the lookout for as your tobacco is curing: The trick for curing is time. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on June 16, 2016: Hi there gepeTooRs , nice to know that you approve, although I can't take any credit for the loading pace, that's all HubPages doing. Grow your own tobacco while you can, - and your own carrots, - and your own cabbages, soon legislation will stop us from doing all that too because we'd be taking the living from the maws poor supermarket empires. Question: Im having a hard time keeping my tobacco burning, could it just need more time? The seedlings are 2.5 inches tall now. Im wanting either a mild hazlenut or chocolate flavor. I believe that it's an evil plot put out by the tobacco magnates and perpetuated by our respective, but seldom respected or respectable, governments to wring money from us. And I always unplugged the light when leaving the house. Using the ones made for smoking, bleached, or with added chemicals is not ideal, to say the very least. Below that, warmth and moisture is a mold issue. The plants grew taller than corn stalks, with leaves as broad as my chest. Thanks. That being said, lets get started! Hey thanks for all these follow up posts and pictures! If you do have problems, see your local nurseryman or talk to a friend who gardens. Let the flowers bloom and die off. Haven't noticed. (Probably a lot better off as fewer additives to the final product and they're a damn' sight richer). The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on November 12, 2015: I love this website - its so usefull and helpfull. Reckon next year I will have to double my crop, I may be a bit shy this year. Wow what a hub I started growing this summer only 3 plants thoe they are 6feet I'd say they now have Pritty pink flowers I harvested around 50 or so leaves hung them on nylon 1 month ago they are turning nice and golden I have them in my garage where I go for a quite smoke and stear at them only but wondering what they are going to be like I'm glad I came across this hub it has put my mind at ease a little and also given me some great ideas, Because of the heart problems i'm moving to Central Hawkes Bay to be with family. I can't suggest anything other than perhaps swapping it amongst your mates for something with less Kick. Tinned tobacco will too, but not to the extent that it would in the tin. What is the next step after the fermentation is ready ? If pile of tobacco is big enough, and insulation is as good as it is inside the foam cooler, wouldn't there be enough heat generated by fermentation process so that no external heat will be required? My pleasure.. (still looking forward to your distillation blog ;). Remember to save your seed for the next crop. Just thought i'ld let you know the 'head start' theory appeared to work. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on April 04, 2014: Thanks for your comments, I use HubPages, as per heading; free to use, just join up. Answer: Most of my friends who grow tobacco just dry it before smoking it, so no, don't bother. (It should reach full size without problems.). this methored did not work the tobacco turned to compost in a few weeks.. to much humidity.. the way i would change it is having the inside tray highter and only puting a cloth over the top so air can escape.. i only put a small hole in the top and this was not enough. Question: Dont you have to ferment or sweat the leaves after drying tabacco, to remove excess ammonia? It has been most helpful. 12.5% cure for between 5 and 10 days. There are all sorts of bells and whistles you can add to enhance the end result, but YOU DON'T HAVE TO! There are several ways to ferment at home. , and then i can"t smoke because its really strong ! From a broader perspective, there are a few variables that influence how tobacco ages. Answer: It should be okay in a large bucket. Also, in the images above you can see the vent holes I cut in the top and bottom of the coolerI have since plugged them up to hold in the humiditythere was too much ventilation going on. This will keep the leaves moist but reduce the chance of mold developing while theyre in storage.
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