Where 180-grain subsonics are concerned, so far Ive had good luck with Reloder 7. Bill Marr [ETA] QuickLoad says if you want your blackout to go faster, reduce bullet weight (175 gr SMK) and run about 17gr IMR4198. For this, you will need a powder scale. They are constantly asking about powders. It is a classic reloading powder that should be on the shelves of any handloading enthusiast. Handloading, also called reloading, is more than just a wonderful hobby for gun owners. This is the only powder I have used in my 44 Magnum ever since. It was easy to establish, reliable, repeatable results. If you see something not right let me know, by also giving supporting reasoning. IMR 4227 is suitable for supersonic and subsonic loads. The 300 blackout round is prominent in hunting and personal defense : 26,000 34,800 CUP Hodgdon 85 gr RN (Sierra) 0.308" Powder: H4227 (Hodgdon) The cleaner your brass is, the longer your dies will last, especially if that brass has been in the dirt at all. powder coated cast bullet made with NOE bullet mold TL310-225-RN, lead hardness at 24bhn, sized to 0.310". Certifiable has done some pretty good work on Subsonic powders for both carbine and pistol gas systems. The subsonic will be quieter through a silencer, while the supersonic will obviously carry more energy for tasks such as hunting. I have loaded some 150 grain Power Points with I 4227. Quick Load program is, buy their own admission should NEVER be used over ANY published data. The velocities cited for the BLK are asthmatic. I am confident that it would also be well suited to .454 Casull and other strong calibers. $ 39.99. Today, IMR is a trademark of the IMR Powder Company, a Hodgdon brand. Very versatile. Smart and safe loader will back off the load and work it back up simply due to powder age and lot variation. Although functionally identical to the 300 Whisper, the 300 AAC Blackout is its own SAAMI standardized cartridge. The best powder for heavy 44 Magnum loads with 300 grain bullets!!! Feeds well in my Hornady progressive press. 01-26-2013, 07:53 AM #9 bmiller Boolit Buddy Hodgdon produced the following load data using a 16 barrel with a 1:8 barrel twist rate, Hornady cases trimmed to 1.363, and Remington 7 1/2 Small Rifle Magnum primers. You find load data for cartridges in caliber .300 AAC Blackout with all common powders and bullets by clicking the "Loads in this caliber" button above. While the 300 BLK is easy (and inexpensive) to reload, Remington and AAC recognized that most people are not reloaders. Please take the time to read the disclaimer below and note that this data was gathered in a bolt action rifle and NOT a semiautomatic rifle. 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Winchester 296 is a ball powder developed for large handgun loads. A better solution to this problem is to use the .300 Blackout-specific magazines made by D&H Tactical and Magpul.A couplenice-to-have items that are not necessarily required for reloading .300 blackout are a brass tumbler and brass separator. Winchester 296 is a ball powder developed for large handgun loads. Winchester 296 is also recommended for 410-bore AA loads. loads were well over the stated FPS in the loading data of 2100 fps. In contrast, subsonic .300 Blackout is ballistically very close to the Russian 9x39mm, the 2 often being compared to the point that bullet drop data and points of impact are virtually identical from 0 to 200 meters. --2195 fps. An ideal solution for loading 357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, and even 410-bore shotshell ammunition, its high loading density provides optimal velocity. We are engineers, reloading enthusiasts and operate one of the most powerful ballistics calculators. This cartridge was designed from the ground up to provide adequate performance in both supersonic and subsonic applications, making it highly versatile and adaptable. So how does everyone find the stability of the heavier projectiles with the 1-8 twist rate? In my 16.5, X95 Sierra 220 grain RN with 11.2 grains of H110 WILL NOT cycle. Highly recommended, I reload for my 300 Blackout very clean burning powder and accurate, great for .357, .41, and .44 magnum pistols. Suggested subsonic load: R-P 300 AAC BLACKOUT brass Remington 7.5 primers 11.2 grains of AA 1680 powder Case length is 1.368 +0.000 -0.020 Sierra 220 MK loaded to 2.089 OAL (this length is optimal for reliable feeding from USGI magazines) . There are a handful of solid reloading manuals out there from Speer, Hornady, Sierra, and Barnes, to name a few. He had groomed his son, William Wirt Winchester as his successor, but the younger Winchester died of tuberculosis in March of the following year before he could assume control of Winchester Repeating Arms. The 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK, or 7.62x35mm) was created by Advanced Armament Corp. and Remington in order to provide the military with a way to shoot .30 caliber bullets from the M4 platform with only a barrel change. Copyright: All Rights Reserved Available Formats Download as PDF, TXT or read online from Scribd Flag for inappropriate content The fast burn rate makes it ideal for use in subsonic loads, producing enough pressure to cycle the action even when pushing the heaviest bullets out of the muzzle. A look at 300 Blackout ballistics including velocity, energy and drop data for some of the most popular loads among American shooters. Never miss a post! The CCI 400s are more than capable of getting a full burn in a 300 BO, and pressure issues are really very minimal in 300 BO because it really is a relatively low pressure load. Make sure always to observe reloading safety rules and not to reload while ill, tired, impaired, or in any state with less than your undivided attention. of H-110 as a supersonic loading. 1 MOA. It is a compressed load and I have read about the dangers of compressing trail boss.. +1; Yup, TB gets really wonky if you compress it. There are also companies converting once fired 5.56 NATO brass (usually with the LC head stamp for Lake City) to .300 Blackout brass. In my Palmetto State Armory 7.5 upper the load functions perfectly ! The gun doesnt move, there is even less recoil than an AR because you dont have the mass of the bolt carrier reciprocating in the rifle. I went back and read my notes. It is a versatile chambering, capable of accepting a wide range of .30-caliber projectiles. Case capacity is critical with .300 Blackout. I would say 10 times more people use lil gun than R7 for subsonic loads. 6.5 Creedmoor load development: Sierra 130 grain Tipped MatchKing (TMK) with H4350, Varget, Reloder 15 and Reloader 17, First impressions ofthe Modular Driven Technologies (MDT) HS3 Chassis system. The two key features that make the 300 BLK excellent for the AR platform, make it difficult to work with ina bolt action rifle; a short case and use of both super and subsonic bullets. The 300 Blackout cartridge is known for providing a wide range of bullet weights and velocities much to the chagrin of bullet drop compensating scope reticle designers. It is mankind I have no trust in. IMR 4227 is a pistol powder with a medium burn rate, primarily intended for use in Magnum pistol and revolver cartridges. Moderators:gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem, Post Id urge you to do the same. gallantbullets.com May 3, 2020 #22 Pgohil Well Known Rokslider. Tipped MatchKing (TMK) REVIEW with IMR 4064, Remington Model Seven (Model 7) Versus The Model 700, Reloading for the Ruger Precision Rifle (RPR) 6.5 Creedmoor, Vang Comp Systems Ghost Ring Sight Installation, DVD Review: Bill Rogers Reactive Pistol Shooting, 223 Remington Load Development: 52, 55, 69 HPBT, Varget and the Ruger American Rifle, Tuffy Security Products Heavy Duty Truck Bed Security Drawer Review, Remington 870 Tritium Rifle Sight Installation, USMC M40A5 Build- Part 1: Gathering the Parts, Re-chambering a barrel: 243 Winchester to 647 Lapua. Offcource in case of subsonic 300 BLK, forgot to mention, sorry. So this is going to be a List of powders that can be used in the 300 blk. When a certain caliber can range from pushing bullets around 150 grains down range around 2500 feet per second to throwing 245-grain bullets at 950 feet per second, it obviously . Instability with 1:8 caused problems with loger cans, bullet maybe wobbling after rifling. What could be the problem with the load in the 16.5 ? Caution is warranted here. (r.). For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov, I have gotten great results when used to reload 300BK OUT, Love this powder. It has since become popular for a wide range of uses including hunting and home defense. I check every single one for the sake of making sure there wont be any problems during my shooting sessions. Alliant Power Pro 300-MP Lake City Federal 205 17.1 1866 19.2 Winchester 296 Lake City Federal 205 16.7 1894 18.4 Ramshot Enforcer Lake City Federal 205 15.4 1839 17.2 IMR 4227 Lake City Federal 205 16.7 1823 18.5 C Accurate 5744 Lake City Federal 205 17.5 1829 18.7 C Vihtavuori N110 Lake City Federal 205 15.0 1830 16.5 C At best, a powder charge that is safe to use with the lighter, shorter bullet may make it impossible to seat in the longer, heavier bullet. Turret- and progressive-loading press options exist from Hornady, Lee Precision and Dillon. 0. A forum community dedicated to anglers in the Texas area. I have complete faith in my Lord. Winchester continued to refine firearm designs with inventors Benjamin Tyler Henry and Nelson King, and on May 22,1866 the Winchester Repeating Arms Company was born. The targets above represent the loads shown in the table. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); If you guys had bothered to ask people what powder they would like to see lil gun would definitely be on that list. 1 0 obj This one seems to reign as a favorite, but it isnt cheap. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. Dillons dies for their machines can be pricey, but the company also generally uses a carbide sizing die. Does Lee offer a Powder Thru Expanding Die for the 300 AAC Blackout. Now for preparations for 2018 Bear season Since my post back in Jan 2019, I have switched and lil Gun cut the groups in half.Sub sonic. by crs7861 Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:25 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Supersonic loads with lighter bullets are suitable for hunting and offer ballistics equivalent to .30-30 Winchester or 7.62x39mm. The latter has nearly twice the propellant, and is therefore better able to fell very distant game. 296 has kept .410 in the hands of American youth- teaching them to shoot for generations. Close range only. The low case capacity requires the use of powders with a fast burn rate like H110 and IMR 4227. At worst, it puts you at risk of extreme and life-threatening overpressure. June 1, 2016 The 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK, or 7.62x35mm) was created by Advanced Armament Corp. and Remington in order to provide the military with a way to shoot .30 caliber bullets from the M4 platform with only a barrel change. 7. Silhouette shooters claim it is the most accurate 44 powder they have ever used. Yea, that's right. In today's episode of "I Carry," we have a Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 Metal pistol with a Holosun EPS Red2 red-dot sight carried in a KSG Armory Lexington IWB holster. In many ways, it is the anti-rifle cartridge. Per the powder manufacturers, we are only able to reprint the data they have provided to us. Joined Feb 16, 2018 Messages 439. 180 grain rainier wedges cycled with 11ish grains of IMR4198 out of my PSA 10.5in suppressed with Syrac Ordinance adjustable gas block. AA1680 or similar in burn rate should work well. http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=81553. All this suppressor talk does not apply to 98per cent of the public. As mentioned, it should NOT be reduced. The 300 AAC Blackout Loading Data wasn't listed in the 2016 version because we hadn't received load data for that caliber at the time of the printing. It provides similar effectiveness to the 7.6239 or the slightly more powerful 30-30 cartridges except works in the more up-to-date AR15 platform. The 300 Blackout's .30 caliber bullet can be made especially long, and as the result may weigh up to 220 grains quadruple the weight of the typical 223 Rem round's. So heavy a bullet conveys a subsonic muzzle velocity and correspondingly softer report. It is the same powder (but from different lots) but relabeled. powder: A1680. : 1.831" Powder: 10.3 gr 13.0 gr Vel. Copyright Ammotogo.com 2023 All Rights Reserved. It is also widely considered to be the powder of choice for .410 bore shotgun shells. There tends to be a lot of newer 300 blk owners, and re-loaders joining lately, and I believe that will continue to grow. IMR propellants have long been used to manufacture US military service ammunition, such as .30-06 M2 Ball (IMR 4895) or 7.62mm NATO M61 AP (IMR 4475). WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Although all Ramshot propellants are made in Belgium at the PB Clermont factory, it is a Hodgdon brand, benefitting from the companys decades of experience in smokeless powder manufacturing. When starting a new load, always begin with the starting load data written in a recent handloading guide, or 15% under a listed maximum load if there is no starting load data provided. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. Berry's 220 grain 300 Blackout bullets. Although they share .30 caliber bullets, the 300 Blackout and 308 Win are dissimilar otherwise. Share your experiences with other customers. by lupy123 Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:06 pm, Post Punching it into quickload shows a 64% case fill, and pressures estimated in the 22K range. Seeing the economic potential of the fast-growing firearms industry, Winchester began to assemble investors and secure venture capital, and in 1857 bought a controlling interest in the Volcanic Repeating Arms Company from two inventive gentlemen named Horace Smith and Daniel B. Wesson. Selected this powder based on recommendations that it was good for .410 reloading. It doesnt have to be fast or super accurate, just looking for a cheap plinking round, Lil gun will work for you. Of course, you need a reloading press. Take your pick. After investigation, AAC found the 7.6239 cases aggressive taper too extreme for a standard M4 magazine to accommodate. If you arent worried about being on the cutting edge of accuracy, the fast twist needed to stabilize the heavier bullets, means you are spinning the lighter loads way too fast. The following are loads that Lehigh Defense recommends for the 194gr ME bullet. by bangbangping Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:30 pm, Post Check out the hodgdon site http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp More posts from r/reloading 74K subscribers SevereNameAnxiety 27 days ago So I met and befriended the guy that runs the local pd range. Winchester - Legendary Powders RELOADING DATA CENTER ALL THE LOAD DATA YOU'LL EVER NEED ALL IN ONE PLACE! endobj Comprehensive load data for Winchester 296 reloading powder und technical specifications for this propellant. Oal 2.260 8.7 grains. If youre using an AR-15 or another self-loading platform, the powder charge must also be enough to reliably cycle the action, unless you dont mind transforming your AR-15 into a straight-pull bolt-action rifle. You can purchase factory-new brass made by Hornady or Remington. Technical Specifications (based on the respective safety standard - see more details in tab "Datasheet" if available) Subscribe to the free newsletter and do not miss any news or promotions. The .300 Blackout has become very popular in recent years, and this is due in part to the cartridges high versatility. Reloading data available in these calibers:.22 Hornet.221 Remington Fireball.222 Remington.223 Remington.22 PPC-USA 6 mm PPC-USA.300 AAC Blackout.308 Winchester.30-30 Winchester.300 Savage 7,62 x 53R (7,62 Russian) 7,62 x 39.303 British 8 x 57 IS (8 mm Mauser) 9,3 x 62 9,3 x 74R.444 Marlin.45-70 Government.458 Winchester Magnum 7 mm TCU 7 mm BR . I am attempting to load both 2-1/2" and 3" Win HS hulls, using WIN WAA410HS wads (NOT the claybuster generic equivalent) and WIN 296/H110 powder. Such large projectiles convey a subsonic muzzle velocity that is accompanied by a quiet report. Most of the reloading manuals show lower data, I suspect this is related to the wide variety of ways to form brass for the cartridge and how that may cause an increase in pressures. This could be Hodgdon H110, Hodgdon CFE Black, Accurate 1680, Reloder 7 or a variety of others. Plenty of nice loads available for many components. Consult appropriate load manuals prior to developing your own handloads. Find load data for Winchester 296 propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder".More about this powder:Wincheste. as well as finding the load data you're going to need. Another option is to load your own. Please help us to improve and report any suggestions via our contact form. Born in Boston in 1810, Winchesters initial foray into business was as a maker of mens shirts. Hodgdon CFE-BLK was designed to provide that level of consistency and performance in the .300 AAC Blackout cartridge, particularly when making subsonic loads. Relative Brun Rate: Load data may show slight variations between 296 and 110, but as I understand it, those differences are from varied batches during testing time with each powder label. IMR 4227, W-296, H-110, or Lil'Gun instead of rifle powders like I expected. W296 is more than similar, it IS H110. Not sure on charge weight but I know there is plenty info out there at, Those would be first hand from those guys. I've seen a few posts and videos on using pulled 147 gr. Excellent for loading high velocity rounds in big bore revolvers such as .44 magnum, .460 magnum and .500 magnum. Whether you are reloading to save money or to create the perfect load for hunting, self-defense, or suppressed use, there is load data and a suitable propellant for you. In addition, H110 is "the" choice for 410-bore shotgun, especially among . Ballistically speaking, the 7.62x39 mm (center) is similar to the .300 Blackout (l.) and .30-30 Win. The twist rate needed to accommodate the heavy subsonic bullets makes finding accurate super sonic loads difficult. Turns my carbine gas rifle into a single shot (no jams, doesnt even try to cycle), but highly accurate. RL-7 seems to work somewhat with subsonic loads in Carbine (which will work for pistol) gas systems with maybe a few bolt hold open (BHO) issues but that may not bother too many. : 1.625" Powder: 16.5 gr 17.5 gr Vel. Hogdon H110 works well for 110-220gr projectiles. Cycles better than anything. Want a subsonic load using reloader 7 or h4198? The 2017 printing is identified by the gold star on the front cover that states "Revised 2017 New Powders over 37,000 loads". Advanced Armament Corporation began developing a .30 caliber subsonic cartridge optimized for the M4 platform in 2009. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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