the coordinates are 35-416.16N 117-4135.12W. We were very close. The average depth of these bases is over a Floor Space. If they are, however, it may be that the glass-walled tunnels are trucks, etc. Using the abandoned mines at China Lake, U.S. units can learn how to operate in such environments, Manofsky said. Ill try and get some good photos. It is uncertain whether the retired Navy Officer who John J. Williams spoke of was referring to the THRESHER or the SCORPION, although the disappearance of the Thresher probably caused more publicity at the time. It is approximately two hours southeast of Reno on US Highway 95. A short time later Steve Fossettturns up missing. Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling Machine: A Preliminary Study. The Hawthorne Army Depot is a huge ammunition storage site located near the town of Hawthorne in western Nevada in the United States. Former employees of said facilities have surfaced over the years In 1984, after nearly 50 years without a major mishap, one of the storage bunkers exploded. It's coming from the illegal sale of drugs. In 1917 F-class submarines were stationed at San Diego and San Diego's Point Loma. She then advised me that she should call the. ahead of the advancing rock drill penetrator. Was the 1973 feasibility study only The peak number of US submarine bases was during World War II, as the submarine was well suited for fighting in the vast Pacific War, often in enemy waters. The 1972 patent makes this clear. Gotrox : Very interesting John. As many a frustrated inventor will In 1977, that number had been reduced to 117; security is contracted to a private company. Home Underground: The List Under the Ground The Branton Papers In 1995 Day & Zimmermann/Basil Corporation, Radnor, Pennsylvania, was awarded a $5,487,390 modification to a cost plus award fee contract for the operation and maintenance of a government owned/contractor operated facility. A tunnel-boring machine could be lowered into the shaft in pieces and then assembled to bore out more tunnels, including one for a small modular nuclear reactor much like those used at Camp Century in Greenland and McMurdo Base in Antarctica. hole liner. [3][4], The United States Navy designated Naval Submarine Base New London as the first submarine base. A number of patents were filed by scientists at Los Alamos, a few federal technical documents were written - and then the whole thing just sort of faded away. As for the. compared to current methods. So are any of you going to try and explain the fact that the area is approximately 3960 feet above sea level yet maintains its water level? Most tunneling activity is under Lake tahoe is 1600 feet deep and it would be interesting if anySEA SALTcould be detected in the water.. Anybody doing pre-deployment training for Afghanistan should be coming to China Lake, he said. Now lets also assume that there is traffic both to and from Monterey Bay and Hawthorne Nevada. ******************************************, Ubehebe Crater, Death Valley National Park. This is the "Unholy 6" base of the Orions. Some of them look exactly like Afghan aqueducts.. During that period, Balaklava was one of the most secret residential areas in the Soviet Union. The Navy Sub Base in Nevadamight have thought. commissioned such a lengthy and detailed analysis of the cost of shown in Illustration 41). There Mitchells caverns but those are small but whose to say that a little bit of dynamite couldnt open it up to something even bigger. ARE YOU READY TO LEARN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MOVE ABOUT BELOW YOUR FEET? I should have felt something the instant there was trouble, if he was really in serious trouble and knew ita matter of life and deathbut I didnt.. [6], The ship USS Wyoming (BM-10) built in 1902 was used as the first submarine tender. Lake Tahoe is 6200 ft. above mean sea level. Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. We have bunkers; we have multilevel tunnel complexes; we have vertical shafts just like youll find over there. I didnt know they were Navy, though now you mention it, it makes sense. He was on Coast to Coast AM on 16 February 2007 : Hollow Earth Expedition, Reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 07:38 PM by ZORGON. During that time I have driven from Las Vegas to Reno many times and was always intrigued at the guard gate and sign just before entering the town of Hawthorne. We will merely state that it involves a scenario similar to that which was portrayed in a James Bond movie, and which concerned underground caverns, silicon valley, nuclear weapons, and the San Andreas fault Branton). History: In 1977, NAD was transferred to the Army, and renamed the Hawthorne Army Ammunition Plant (HWAAP). glass-lined tunnel behind them. It covers the entire continental United States and extends through Central America and Brazil into Argentina. powered tunneling machines. Because they know that catastrophe is coming. The Air Forces development of underground silos, subways and central commands produced real-world hardware and experience with construction techniques. Submarine Tender carried fuel for the submarines, food for the crew, and living quarters for the crew to rest while the sub was being serviced. But lets assume that it might be true. Well if THAT isnt enough documentation on just ONE of the things John says, then there is no help for you and please feel free to laugh it up, And dont give me that nonsense about Just because they issued a patent doesnt mean, BS!!! the tunneling machine to help cool the vitrified rock as the Located approx 125 miles north-northwest of Las Vegas and consists of the Groom Lake and the Papoose Lake Complexes. In May 2005, the facility was included on the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure list, with closure being recommended. deflecting the molten materials against the tunnel walls to Hawthorne Army Depot is located in the west central part of Nevada close to the California state line. Of course, Los Alamos A 1973 Los Alamos study entitled Systems and Cost Analysis for a Maybe that little nuclear powered Fast Attack Sub. conventional TBMs. Nuclear submarines arrive at bases for crew change, resupply and repairs. If a submarine where to make 33 knots the trip would take about five and a half hours. The Thresher was the LEAD SHIP or Flag ship in the worlds most advanced class of nuclear attack submarines. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? These have been explored via nuclear submarines to several hundred miles inland, particularly in the region of southern California and the southern Oregon northern California area. the tunnel face. SoWe do NOT know how true the above is. WOW! San Pedro and San Diego also were not designated submarine bases. After a nationwide search, Hawthorne was the choice, the Yucca Mountain of its time. It used to read Naval Undersea Warfare Training Center. It is noteworthy in the first place that the government More than 15,000 people live on the base. Just drive in; if there is a security guard on duty, just say Golf Course and youre in. 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Very likely all three conceptsinvulnerable bastions, space outposts and ocean baseswould have shared solutions to issues ranging from environmental control to crew morale. Beginning in September 1930 and during World War II, 600 Marines were assigned to the facility. Last Tuesday I drove from Reno to Las Vegas after attending the Bay Area UFO Expo. The problem is (temporarily) being rectified by water injectioni.e. In 1980, HWAAP was redesigned as a government-owned contractor-operated facility. Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. There are stories that California and Nevada sit on a shelf underneath which lies on an eastern portion of the Pacific Ocean. the tunnel by the tunnel machine, where it will form a hard, glassy Once a month, our reservists go out and do a data sweep, Manofsky said. Would you believe Rand Corporation documents from 1972? John revealed its the location and he thinks the Base Commander was pissed. He was on Coast to Coast AM on 16 February 2007 : Hollow Earth Expedition http://www.ourhollowearth.com/VoyagetoHollowEarth.htm, ************************************** An underwater craft from another nation engaged one of our subs in combat under California or Nevada. Copyright 2023 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved. There have also been rumors that there is an underground facility in the area. all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. Commander John W. Harvey, USN, with a total of 129 men (comprised of the crew, civilian technicians, and observers) disappeared without explanation. But. The depot covers 147,000 acres (595 km), and has 600,000 square feet (55,700 m) of floor space in 2,427 storage bunkers. tunneling cost analysis is thought provoking. By applying well-understood principles employed for decades by the mining industry, Austin proposed that large bases could be constructed and operated anywhere suitable bedrock occurred in the ocean, at any depth. Some of these responses appear to be knowledgeable sources. The United States Navy built permanent and temporary submarine bases around the world to maintain its fleet of submarines and serve the needs of the crews. It is found throughout the vast majority of the planet. The depot began its existence as the Hawthorne Naval Ammunition Depot (NAD). close to those for TBMs, if operating conditions for TBMs are It is directly south of Walker Lake. Dulce forms a lower point of a Triangle SSE from Uinta Basin and SE from Hawthorne. faded away. On 16 October 1900, the USS Holland departed for her first port, United States Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland for crew training. I have no reason to doubt the man. Many underground chambers are as large as 50, x 100 '. All in all, she was the most advanced international submarine in the world at the time of her disappearance and would have been an ideal choice for a top-secret mission such as the exploration of the caverns mentioned by John Williams source. So. Austins dream remains both sober and dazzlingly novel. [1] the same time achieves the advantage of a casing type of bore This complex tracks thousands of satellites, missiles, submarines, and UFOs. Facilities include 178 Buildings and 2,427 Igloos. Ryan and Kerry Cassidy I dont know. It sank up to 26 feet and dikes had to be built to keep out the water. (it is postulated by some that an ancient land-mass which some believe may have been connected to what is now California, broke off and sunk into the ocean during an ancient cataclysm Branton). Nuclear submarines have seawater distillation, so bases are not needed for fresh water needs.[11][12]. NOTE : Unlikely. advantage for the NSTM results from the combination of. Some of them were built even earlier than that. Maybe it was an elevator that went down to the level of the Pacific Ocean that extends under California and Nevada. Point Sur is 600 feet of tough rock facing Pacific rollers that come 6,000 miles to pound the central California coast. cracks produced in the surrounding rock. This machine would also be capable of produce and extend cracks in solid rock radially around the bore The Transamerican Underground Subshuttle System (T.A.U.S.S.) var sc_invisible=1; Submarine bases that had limited or no land facilities used submarine Tender at the advanced submarine bases. Reports are: theres a large subterranean river which plunges, into an abyss. The town of Hawthorne, Nevada harbors a big 18-mile x 8-mile lake called Walker Lake. Would you believe Patents filed by Los Alamos National Laboratory and the Department of Energy for three Atomic TBMs? Ive heard of saline lakes in California, Mono lake comes to mind : http://www.monolake.org/, Topic started on 17-3-2007 @ 11:23 AM by allMIGHTY, http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread273017/pg1, GO TO : http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4096/base02oo2.th.jpg. concluded that nuclear subterrene tunneling machines (NSTMs) would I told her that I hadnt had time to take a picture and that I was just happened to be leaving at that moment. The Holland Torpedo Boat Company of New York City contracted Union Iron Works to build the two Plunger-class submarines. I dont know, he said. Your suggestion of underground sea passages is in line with the thinking of Dr Brooks Agnew. Security for the 3,000 bunkers at NAD was provided by the U.S. Marine Corps. There is definately one at Walker Lake. Chapter 36 - The Final Invasion of the U.S.?? From Dr Bill Deagle's December 2006 Granada Forum Lecture: were filed by scientists at Los Alamos, a few federal technical http://www.americansouthwest.net/california/death_valley/ubehebe_crater.html, More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the America's. INDIA'S UNDERGROUND SUBMARINE BASE & 20 NEW SUBMARINES: TOP 5 FACTSPROJECT VARSHAIntroduction:A new naval base being developed under Project Varsha for the I. Tehachapi Ranch- 4 saucer bases, Tecachapi Canyon has a new underground base which was finished in Sept. '95. The base, which is located near St Marys in Camden County, Georgia, is the home port for the US Navy Atlantic Fleet's Trident nuclear-powered submarine fleet. The A.A. Mathews Construction The story does sound a bit fantastic but I have no reason to doubt the man. At There are 2 routes from Monterey Bay south of San Francisco to the submarine base under Hawthorne. You certainly don't see any obvious Navy transports above ground like you see Air Force Transports. Some of them look exactly like Afghan aqueducts.. By 1966 the two surges into outer space and inner space were at their flood tide. liquid lithium from the reactor core to the tunnel face, where it Is there a possibility that the Navy does operate submarines from Monterey Bay via an underground sea which extends underneath the San Joaquin Valley, then under the Sierra Nevada mountain range to a Naval Undersea Warfare Center deep below the Nevada desert in Hawthorne Nevada? Puerto Rico? var sc_security="2d1f75fb"; Underground Bases and ", (U.S. Patent No. That is why the Mega Search turned up NOTHING. Yes. mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. Subterranean structures gone to waste From covert bases to hidden defenses, read on as we take a tour of some stunning, and secret, abandoned underground structures that governments built. The expanded eastern portion of the property is known as the S-4 site, others allege its the southwest corner of Area 51. This reduced the need to return to permanent bases farther away. This report has a number of interesting Construction began on Hawthorne NAD in July 1928, and NAD received its first shipment of high explosives on October 19, 1930. I asked her if I could sign up for a tour. There really wereand aresome strange ideas deep down in the sea. Over the past 20 years I have heard stories of a huge U.S. Navy submarine base under the desert in Hawthorne Nevada. In the absence of information fantasy takes winger, finbut nearly 50 years later C.F. 51, the Northrop facility in Antelope Valley, California (rumored Hidden under a 400-feet-thick level of rock, the base is regarded as one of the world's largest secret military objects. The U.S. Marine Corps actually already uses another underground bunker complex in Norway, near the city of Trondheim, to store vehicles and other equipment to support rapid deployments. was involved in building an addition to the deep *********************** On April 10, 1963 (according to official reports) the Thresher, under the command of Lt. The 'Black Budget' currently consumes $1.25 trillion per year. Several books have been written What do you believe really happened? Carson and Joy asked the attractive young woman. Fulton class was followed by the Griffin Class in 1941, Aegir-class in 1943, Hunley-class submarine tender] in 1962, Simon Lake-class in 1964, L. Y. Spear-class in 1970, Emory S. Land-class in 1974, Emory S. Land Class in 1979. ARE YOU READY TO LEARN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MOVE ABOUT BELOW YOUR FEET? More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the Americas, The Secrets of the Mojave: Or, The Conspiracy Against Reality, http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/hawthorne.htm, http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1479/flyingmranchatsauy1.png, http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread300230/pg1, 2015: According to the Macuxi Indians of the Amazon: Theres An Entire World Inside Our Planet, 1992: Underground Bases in Southern California. The base, located at Olavsvern in northern Norway, is built under a hill resting alongside the Norwegian Sea, with a large entrance capable of admitting ships and submarines. It was the recollection of a former worker at the NTS that an awful lot of drilling was done in Area 19, but relatively few Nuclear blasts. The kerf is the outside boundary of the tunnel wall that a boring is a transportation system connecting underground installations together. And yet a third patent was issued to the United States Energy Whether or not nuclear subterrene tunneling machines have been used, He said it was "unusual that a commercial satellite would be overhead at just the right time" on a cloudless day. Endless rows of ammunition bunkers dot both sides of the road. NOTE : Unlikely. Babbitt was named for the 2nd Commander of NAD Hawthorne, H.S. In such heady times, dreams of colonizing the continental shelf within a generation seemed like sober predictions. A WELL-KNOWN U.S. nuclear submarine lost its way in these passages and disappeared forever. We plan on going to Devils Hole when the weather gets a little cooler. One incident which tends to confirm the fact that California is in fact floating on the ocean was a story which made the headlines in recent years. tunneling activities. **********************************. Then..the ONI removed the evidence of the crashed aircraft. tunnel system. 2. One response was from a retired (conventional submarine duty? Did the Navy ever actually pursue the Rock-Site concept at Point Sur or elsewhere? The cruise missile submarine that was launched back in 1965, remained in operation for 23 years before the Soviets withdrew there Juliett-class subs. If nuclear subterrenes actually exist (and I do not know if they do) their Construction began on Hawthorne NAD in July 1928, and NAD received its first shipment of high explosives on October 19, 1930. (This river would probably have been a partially water-filled cave with a large stream or river flowing through it, rather than an entirely underwater passage, since 27 miles would undoubtedly be entirely out of the question if it were all underwater travel, with present diving technology Branton). diameter or more. She responded vehemently in the negative. I am in the process of looking for this input; its been several years now and it may have all been thrown out Incidentally, the oil company seismic data had much data round the Fresno area if that helps any. I have seen copies of, Since publishing our article on the vast cavern. And the lake itself certainly wouldnt be big enough or deep enough to train for Undersea Warfare. Then..the ONI removed the evidence of the crashed aircraft. A top-secret, abandoned Soviet submarine base that was hidden from the public for decades is now a museum. Most of the entrances lie just off the Continental Shelf (ie. We would probably have to have to separate channels, one for each direction of travel.
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