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If youre a rat, youre the scum of the earth, he said in an interview. In another instance, in 2014, Mr. Santillan and his wife got into a brawl with other people at a racetrack, the Mongols filing says. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. Hes apart of a club that started with Cops and COS. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. 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Mongols biker club is denied new racketeering trial after claims its leader was informant Mongols members walk over the 6th Street Viaduct in Los Angeles. The A.T.F. if we Americanize the cartels that would make YouTube more entertaining, hurt Gore websites and save hundreds of thousands of lives. He is a rat, Mr. Santillans wife, Annie, suggested in a text message that became a key piece of evidence in the case against the group, which was founded in Southern California in 1969 and whose members are mostly Hispanic. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. Its a new age now, TIk Toc, FB,IG they are all doing it and worse of all creators on YouTube. Hopefully it will go back internally and people can worry about the profiling and patch case. The unusual legal imbroglio provides a rare glimpse into the hidden and volatile politics of the outlaw motorcycle club and the degree to which law enforcement and its targets may engage in limited cooperation when it is seen as mutually beneficial. Testimony will reconvene on Friday, July 22, at 7:30 a.m. LA County sheriff's recruits graduate months after Whittier crash, Highways into the San Bernardino Mountains are closed to drivers, LA County passes motion requiring retrofit of some buildings by 2033. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. Anyone can read what you share. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. Mr. Santillan has acknowledged that he talked often with Mr. Ciccone for a period of years, usually in the presence of other Mongols members. Both Mr. Ciccone and the U.S. Attorneys Office declined to comment on the motion beyond the government response filed in court, which said the petition for a new trial was replete with false and unsupported allegations and speculation.. SANTA ANA, Calif. After federal prosecutors won a landmark racketeering conviction against the Mongols motorcycle club, in an attempt to put an end to the outlaw groups long record of murder, attempted murder and drug dealing, the Mongols countered with an unusual claim: Their leader, they said, had been secretly helping the government in its efforts to bring down the organization. Now its onto covering what the biker lifestyle is all about- Fun and riding motorcycles. AS far as the other dude with the other channel is concerned. agent who infiltrated three biker clubs. Santillan says he and Ciccone had a "rapport" after 25 years of dealing with one another. Never in my life have I ever implicated anybody in the club for some kind of nefarious activity. The present nationwide leaders of the Mongols stated they have been satisfied that the membership's former president, who managed the Mongols' protection workforce, had acted improperly. agent, but they failed to persuade a judge to grant a new trial on the racketeering and conspiracy convictions against the club. After one year he's done and he can't protect me, so we have to have an exit strategy.". David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent. READ ALSO | Was head of OC biker gang a 'rat'? (You must log in or sign up to reply here. In my opinion, the only reason the government brought this RICO case was to take another run at the patch, having failed each time in the past, said George L. Steele, a lawyer for the Mongols who is handling a separate appeal in the case. Just my thought as I have no horse in this race, Insane Throttle Support Club Become a member Now, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and Audio Disclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index & Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. ", RELATED: Mongols Motorcycle Club vows to fight trademark loss. She also said in a text message to other Mongols, now filed with the court, that her husband had acted for a time as a confidential government informant. "Absolutely not, unequivocally no," says David Santillan. The Mongols are now claiming that throughout their attempt to defend the club in the long-running criminal case, their own leader was secretly talking to the government. The current president of the Mongols Motorcycle Club is David Santillan, a man who claims that the organization has changed its code of conduct to exclude drug abusers and criminals. No one at all can keep blaming LEO (Which I do all the time) when there is gang shit happening all the time. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. That quest to seize the Mongols patch was part of a criminal case brought by the U.S. Attorneys Office in 2013 under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. A jury sided with the prosecution in 2019 and ordered the group to give up the emblem, but Judge David O. Carter rejected the verdict as an infringement on the clubs constitutional rights. At the core of the case was a video of a conversation between Mr. Santillan and his wife that she had passed on to members of the biker club last year, accompanied by a text message in which she told them that her husband had been a confidential government informant. New features, smoother menu and backgrounds- PLUS!! He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, an apparently agitated Mr. Santillan said to her. Marshal that Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone had been seen chatting at a Starbucks near the courthouse. The judge will most likely consider a series of procedural matters on Monday, lawyers said, with additional hearings expected before any final ruling. I think it would be time to really clean house over there, anyone that lil Dave came in contact with on a regular basis would have to go? The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. The ultimate implications for society are paramount here, he said. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. He explained: We wanted them to know we were there monitoring.. If youre a rat, youre the scum of the earth, he said in an interview. ", RELATED: Racketeering verdict in OC might force Mongols biker club to lose logo. Mr. Santillan said he talked with the A.T.F. The original case attracted widespread attention because of the federal governments unusual attempt to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword and thus relinquish a big source of the organizations mystique. #MONGOLSMC #LILDAVE #MONGOLSMOTORCYCLECLUBIs Lil Dave from the Mongols innocent?Full Interview American Cholo https://youtu.be/PzmaL8MliAI#LILDAVE#MONGOLSMC#. "I've never cooperated in any way, shape or form.". This is the final statement on this because honestly its mundane and boring. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. agent who infiltrated three biker clubs. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide, For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. SANTA ANA, Calif. (KABC) -- Testimony resumed inside an Orange County federal courthouse on Wednesday morning for a hearing in which a judge will decide if the Mongols Motorcycle Club will get a new trial after being convicted of conspiracy and racketeering in 2018. As for Mr. Ciccone, he had mastered the craft of executing complex investigations using everything from undercovers to informants to wiretaps to subpoenas and surveillance, said Frank DAlesio, a retired A.T.F. That was all it was about. Mr. Santillan has acknowledged that he talked often with Mr. Ciccone for a period of years, usually in the presence of other Mongols members. He said they discussed matters such as public safety when the Mongols or other clubs were planning parties or motorcycle rallies to ensure that members stayed in line and that rival groups kept their distance. Three years after the 2018 case, the Mongols lawyers came forward last year with claims that the groups former president, David Santillan, had been surreptitiously cooperating with a special agent from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives for years and had sabotaged the defense. They are sick and tired of the gangster shit, they want to be bikers and be apart of a scene that was once true to itself (Thus the reason for pop up clubs and lack of respect for protocol and tradition). There could be a particular concern that the defense lawyer was unwittingly receiving directions from someone aligned with the government, he said. Episode Website. Former Mongols Biker Club Leader Denies He Was Ever a Rat The Mongols Motorcycle Club allege that their former president David Santillan was a confidential informant during their RICO. and other law enforcement agencies have long gone after biker organizations by co-opting members as informants and infiltrating the groups with their own undercover agents. He and his wife, Annie, were estranged after he had an affair. Mr. Dulaney said that Mr. Santillan instituted new policies, like no more club-driven drug business, and made it mandatory that members had to have a motorcycle and things like a valid drivers license and registration and a job.. "I think they got David in compromising situations," Yanny tells Eyewitness News. The only thing he is guilty of is talking to John a lot and having some kind of rapport with him, she said in an interview. Great conversation with the president of the Mongols. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. In other words, Ms. Santillan wrote in the text, he is a rat. In the video, played several times during the hearings, Ms. Santillan is talking to her husband on speakerphone when he informs her that Mr. Ciccone will be retiring. In court testimony and in an earlier interview, Ms. Santillan said she had shared the video and the text with the Mongols in an attempt to destroy her husband but had since regretted it; she said she was not being truthful when she claimed he had been an informant. On one occasion during the trial, Judge Carter expressed his displeasure to lawyers for both sides after being told by a U.S. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. Mongols MC President Lil Dave THE REAL AMERICAN CHOLO. Mr. Santillan provided records from the cases to show he had been convicted of offenses including driving under the influence, leaving the scene of an accident and disturbing the peace, and that he had been arrested, fined and put on probation. On Thursday last week, The Suit was downtown at a pre-trial hearing in the case of David Martinez, accused of killing Pomona Police Officer Shaun Diamond in November. told the court that she had checked an agency database containing information on confidential informants dating back to 2002, and that Mr. Santillan did not come up as one. In the case that led to the racketeering conviction against the Mongols, Mr. Ciccone had acted as the case agent. Such an order would allow anyone to use the image. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. The birth of modern-day Mongols came in 1969 in Montebello and the club's website pulls no punches about its beginnings as well as its vision. Want to know whats wrong with the scene and why people are not joining clubs anymore? The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. Subscribe to our Insane Throttle YouTube channel for a wide range of biker shows and news Two years after a federal jury found the notorious Mongols Motorcycle Club a criminal organization, lawyers for the club are asking a judge for a new trial accusing its former president of being a secret government informant and [] For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. Well let you guys have your fun, but keep your people in check, so to speak, he testified in June. The indictment did not target any individuals but alleged that the club itself had engaged in an organized conspiracy of crimes such as murder, attempted murder and drug dealing. Annie Santillan says she surreptitiously recorded the call because David's mistress had been harassing her. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. On one occasion during the trial, Judge Carter expressed his displeasure to lawyers for both sides after being told by a U.S. The government has filed a separate appeal on that issue, seeking a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the logo. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York. It wasnt the entire Mongols Nation that threw him under the bus but a few that fed creators who thought these people were representing the clubs voice. Both men also rejected the claim that Mr. Santillan had revealed privileged defense information to the government while his motorcycle club was on trial. That quest to seize the Mongols patch was part of a criminal case brought by the U.S. Attorneys Office in 2013 under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. "I assumed it was going to be her, so we videotaped," Annie Santillan tells Eyewitness News. I've heard rumours he's also not actually mongolian. A supervisory special agent with the A.T.F. The Mongols have been fixtures on the biker scene since 1969, when the club was founded in Montebello, Calif. It is the First Amendment issues associated with the case that are most important, Judge Carter said on Thursday, and whether the government has the right to seize control of a trademarked emblem as a way of eliminating a groups ability to operate and recruit. Now its at a point where guns, instead of fist are used to settle things. The California motorcycle group had claimed that its former president, David Santillan, was a government informant. That is the conviction and fine the Mongols are now trying to have set aside. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. One thing is for certain, you dont ever let people know your club affiliation over the internet. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. Mr. Santillan holding a photo of himself with fellow Mongols members. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. Topics Selection,Research, Editing, Correction Policy andEthics, on Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant(VIDEO), Mongols Motorcycle Club says LIL Dave was an informant as they head back tocourt, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html, THE PAGANS MC MADE THEM LOOK FOOLISH **FULL AUDIOEPISODE**, THE PAGANS MC MADE THEM LOOK FOOLISH**VIDEO**, Ep 937 HERES THE TRUTH UNCLE SHAGGY & THE INVADERS MC **FULLAUDIO**, HARLEY DAVIDSONS FROM 90s ARE BETTER THAN MODERNHARLEYS, HERES THE TRUTH ABOUT UNCLE SHAGGY & THE INVADERSMC, Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant, HERE'S THE TRUTH ABOUT UNCLE SHAGGY & THE INVADERS MC, https://insanethrottleinternational.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/discord-commercial-harley.mp3, https://insanethrottleinternational.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/motorcyclemadhousemayhempromo.mp3. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. In their petition, the Mongols argue that Mr. Santillan could have been pressured to leak strategy and other information to the government as a result of lenient treatment the defense claimed he received during his brushes with the law. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. She also said in a text message to other Mongols, now filed with the court, that her husband had acted for a time as a confidential government informant. This wasnt the case . All rights reserved. Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. Mongols Motorcycle Club says LIL Dave was an informant as they head back to court June 5, 2022 A new episode of Motorcycle Madhouse with Hollywood & Chinadoll Mon-Fri. Get with the Insanity on all major Podcast Platforms Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. Mr. Santillan walking into a federal courthouse in Santa Ana, Calif., during the 2018 racketeering trial against the Mongols. David told me that they had been meeting every day at Starbucks before trial until Judge Carter told them not to because a juror saw them together, Mr. Stubbs testified in August. The only thing he is guilty of is talking to John a lot and having some kind of rapport with him, she said in an interview. Judge Carter also pressed Annie Santillan on why she specifically called her husband a confidential informant and "a rat" if she was just trying to hurt him.

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