MORRISON: Kurt and Andrew grew up together in Northern California, where the fledgling director gave Andrew starring roles in some of his earliest ventures. They should have been given custody of Zachary to begin with. He travelled across the country, and to England, to collect these reminiscences, which reveal Bagby to be a caring physician and a beloved and charismatic goofball. MORRISON: Life for Andrew Bagby was good. In January, the film was nominated for Best Documentary by both the Chicago Film Critics Association and the Online Film Critics Society, who also nominated writer/director/composer Kurt Kuenne for Breakthrough Filmmaker of 2008. And I know, you love me, and--yeah. The news and opinions youll love for only $10 for 1 year. "We had to do something.. MORRISON: And, says T.J., in the way of her opportunities to be. And she followed Andrew to St. John's. Now armed with a powerful tool, "Dear Zachary: A Letter, to a Son about his Father," the tribute film Kurt Kuenne started making, first. MORRISON: When another of Andrew's best friends, Kurt Kuenne, heard about the murder, he also went into a tailspin. I said, `When do you think you'll be done?' There is a dark pull in watching the Bagby case travel to unanticipated depths, but there are no thrills. They're like, `What do you mean?' An unusually personal and powerful story of a murder, it may offer something of a counterweight to the forces of bias and prurience that often pull the genre off-track. Woman #11: Doesn't matter what happened. us around. It also recently won Best Documentary at the Orlando Film Festival and the Audience Award at the St. Louis International Film Festival. "Go into this cold and be prepared for a life-changing experience. then one day I realized what it was. Cpl. I didn't even know why I was going, other than Mom didn't want. We'll keep this website updated as to their progress when there is news. While the police investigation was still underway, Turner, a Canadian citizen, packed off to St. Johns, Newfoundland. However awkward Shirley Turner made it, they were sweet, cooperative. Mr. SIMPSON: He said, `You'll never guess who showed up on my doorstep at 5:30.' One for such a wonderful young man that you raised. MORRISON: In July 2003, a year and eight months after their son's, murder, Andrew's friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, who'd been making the, documentary film for Zachary about the father he'd never know, arrived in. He said, `Well, it's 4:30 now. David Bagby's book, Dance With the Devil, is a good read. We made this place together, we own it together, we run it together. When he returned to the States, Shirley showed up soon after. A court mandate allowed David and Kate Bagby to spend time, with their grandson, babysitting, even sharing in joint activities with. It had happened almost surely the last, night they were together, and DNA tests would later prove that Andrew was, (Supreme Court exterior; court in progress; house exterior; Shirley and Shears. They are simply good people. Even during his stilted summaries of events, you can sometimes hear Kuenne choking up. Understood? So he came straight for me. Mr. SIMPSON: And he said, `I'm going to need to catch up with you, and we're going to have to do some serious talking.' It's great. Shirley asked them to take custody of Zachary while she was gone. This is not the worst instance in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. We were in the way, I guess, of her trying to go to school. We urge everyone to write your MP (if Canadian) or the Attorney General of Canada (if not) urging them to support MP Andrews and his bill as it moves toward a vote in the near future. Mr. KUENNE: He warmed up to me as the--as the week wore on, MORRISON: But the Bagbys were especially anxious. March 18, 2008: Remember these two things as I go on. Kuennes fast-talking exposition, while confusing, seems purposeful, as though the murder were a necessary backstory to be pushed through as quickly as possible in order to get to the heart of the narrative: Andrew Bagbys life and how horrible his death was for those who loved him. This is what that fucking bitch didnt know, David Bagby fumes towards the end of Dear Zachary. Mr. BAGBY: The baby would be half Andrew, and that, for us, was sweet. I think they just poured all of their love and, MORRISON: A week after Kurt's visit, Zachary turned one. Watching the documentary brings up a mix of feelings from joy to hatred. David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. Former Production Manager at Mountain Gospel Radio. Wait, thats not true, Sophocles came up with it when he wrote Oedipus Rex about a king who unwittingly fulfills a prophecy that foretold he would kill his father and marry his mother, and then pokes out his own eyes because hes in despair and you cant outrun destiny. MORRISON: What do you do about this? And you just bought the gun, right? This documentary starts out like a love letter. Kate says everything seemed to be going smoothly, until here. But a few weeks later, she showed up in Pennsylvania, unexpected, for the wedding of one of his friends. Sharing voices. Skewed imagery. One of the first to meet Zachary was, (Photo of Zachary Turner; wedding dance; photo of Shirley and Zachary; photo. And thank God. Around 11:30 PM Shirley came downstairs, asking to borrow T.J.'s car. They are warm. MORRISON: The sea at midnight was endless black. MORRISON: Zachary Andrew Turner, the son of murder victim Andrew, Bagby and his accused killer Shirley Turner, was born on July 18th 2002, eight, months after the young doctor's murder. And we came back. An abridged version of "Dear Zachary" will premiere on CBC Newsworld in Canada on Sunday, October 25th at 10 PM ET/PT. Mr. BAGBY: Constable Walsh asking to call him. The first time we had contact with her was over the phone. Help contribute to IMDb. Now, she sucked us in here, too. Why? And Turner had said he was a, MORRISON: But there were some caveats. (SPOILER WARNING: Do not watch this short until you have seen Dear Zachary. MORRISON: The rage was tempered with a yearning to know just why Andrew had been assassinated. get in there, if that's what she demanded. T.J. and his girlfriend went to bed. In November 2002, when, Zachary was four months old, a Canadian judge ruled that a properly instructed, jury would likely find Shirley Turner guilty and ordered her incarceration, while awaiting a decision from justice officials to surrender her to the, United States. They hadn't been identified, but it's obvious who they, MORRISON: He was right. This is a huge step forward in the mission Dear Zachary was created to accomplish. This was the situation with Andrews son Zachary. The bill is called C-464 - An Act to amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). Former Assistant Pastor at Jackson Community Church. The Bagbys could scarcely believe. 2023 Cond Nast. His father says, "I kissed him and held . Dear Zachary has been announced as the first film to launch the newly formed MSNBC Films division of MSNBC. Well, you dont have to look far, said Dr. T. Clark Simpson, who worked with Bagby. Unidentified Man #22: We will develop policy specific to children. I--we both did. They did their best to keep their dark feelings about their son's accused. (Photo of Shirley; "Canada" on building; T.J. Shears walking), Mr. T.J. SHEARS: My mom was just like, `Oh, hey.' Or it's in the car. If you were waiting to find out where exactly the comfort was in this litany of suffering, it is in Bagbys parents. There won't be any question about whether she can hurt, MORRISON: Coming up, as David Bagby wrestles with these terrible. If Shirley, Turner had her way, they wouldn't have met Zachary at all, claiming she didn't. Dear Zachary recently won the Audience Award at the Sidewalk Moving Picture Festival in Birmingham, Alabama! I didn't have. Cpl. September 28, 2008: But of course I didn't. Mr. BAGBY: She just kept coming back, and coming back and coming back. Why would she say that if he wasn't? At least he might have asleep when she went in. We had negotiated a one-hour-a-week visitation in family court. MORRISON: The ammunition used to kill Andrew was CCI .22 caliber bullets. Andrew assured his filmmaker friend Kurt that the 40-year-old was a passing fancy. KATE: Ah, it was wonderful. KATE: (To Zachary) Kurt knew your daddy when he was a little boy. "One of the best documentaries I have ever seen in my entire life a film that will rock you to your core. Then the questioner got choked up.the best thing I've seen in Austin (at SXSW)." murderer in check. Sixteen years have passed but for the Bagbysthe story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. Both screenings received sustained standing ovations, and the Toronto audience applauded yet again when director Kurt Kuenne announced that he had sent letters to every member of Parliament requesting the opportunity to screen the film for them. She called trying to get Andrew when he was here doing a rotation here in California. But the fact that theyre probably killers means they are much more dangerous than the rest of us, probably. The film ends with the Bagbys and their relatives, friends, and colleagues reflecting on the father and son, as well as the . Bagbys wondered if there might ever be an extradition hearing. Please consider joining us in this mission by becoming a member of the SaltWire Network and helping to make our communities better. The couple was also involved in a support group for parents of murdered children and sat through three murder trials to try and help other surviving parents deal with their incredible grief. It also recently screened at the Calgary International Film Festival and the Edmonton International Film Festival to standing ovations from Canadian audiences, where it inspired many audience members to write their Parliament in support of bail reform. to let out hints that Shirley Turner was the prime suspect. David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. MORRISON: Ah, but there was a lot to say about Andrew. We send a huge thanks to MP Scott Andrews, his assistant Ken Carter, MP Peter Stoffer, Senator Tommy Banks, his assistant Thrse Gauthier, Gord McIntosh and all those in Parliament who have seen across party lines and supported this bill to honor Andrew & Zachary and help prevent a recurrence of our story. Mr. SHEARS: You could see in his eyes that he was full of life. (A number of his male friends say that they asked, or would have asked, him to be their best man.) If a suitable candidate is not identified, the award will not be given for that year. The Bagbys still hold a bitterness when they talk about how they were failed by a legal system that let Turner out on bail and allowed her to retain custody of Zachary. I mean, she. There won't be any question about, whether she can hurt him. After Zacharys death, the Bagbys began a quest to have Canadas bail laws changed. But before that could happen, Shirley was apparently deemed neither, dangerous nor a flight risk and almost immediately released on bail, most of, it posted by one of her mentors from med school, a psychiatrist to whom she'd, gone for treatment after Andrew's murder. Click HERE for assistance. The bond between, Zachary and his grandparents grew and grew, and Shirley noticed, even from, KATE: (Audio recording) I think it was one time we were on the phone or, KATE: (Audio recording) Yeah, the baby cried, and I said, `Oh, there's my, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, `Oh, my baby.
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