All I did was laugh when the very reputable heating and air company in our town quoted this amount. Unh uh !! Price? If you can't understand that then you must be stupid. Many have been running now for well over 5 years and run almost constantly all winter long. What a bunch of scam artists. We have unplugged our Eden Pure and have decided to think of this as a 300.00 back up heat source in case our gas furnace takes a dump. Oh, yes, and for the guy who said how can the ceramic remove moisture from the air, if you will look, there is only one model that is also a dehumidifyer, so it is both a heater PLUS a dehumidifyer. I am on a fixed income and can't afford to pay almost the same amount I paid for it to ship it back. I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. What I do not understand is if the heater is so great why are not the customer service personal returning calls. That is the real savings. 2) People keep saying a BTU is a BTU and you can't get more energy out of electricity than is put in. Though I dont know why you would want to. A radiant barrier works best in the attic. This year, 2010, we noticed that the unit was not at all effective. CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. If your 40,000 btu furnace is 80% efficient, it is releasing into your house 32,000 btus WHEN IT IS RUNNING. Everything is on the website and on the adverts. Several EdenPURE heaters have been tested and compared against Lasko electric heaters. Nonetheless, they can be useful for heating small spaces, such as a small room or office cubicle. Keep up the good work EdenPURE! This actually makes their heater less efficient. Electric heat is VERY expensive, no matter how much you pay for your heater. 1) If a person commenting on this site is in the HVAC business they are automatically biased against EdenPURE because it competes with their services. Christo T 575 subscribers Subscribe 87K views 5 years ago How to change the Thermostat settings on Bradford. They said they could not do a refund because it was past the 60 days and I said I thought the 60 day thing was for the smart people that decided they didn't want it, not for a DEFECTIVE product of which I have received 2 in a row.Anyway they refused to refund my money so I guess I'm just stuck with this piece of junk. EdenPURE sells their heaters all day long on their website for $247 plus free shipping so where you got your $400 figure is a mystery. Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 20, 2012: Ritamarie, thank you for the lengthy comment. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! It claims to scrub the air in a 1000 cubic foot room. He was telling the UPS lady that he could never contact anyone at the company and what a piece of overpriced junk it was. When I was 1st introduced to the Edin Pure, price of heating fuel was sky high. About 8 years ago, I got an estimate for ZONE HEATING for my home including the garage. Furnaces. Make sure that your home is well insulated and consider using a radiant barrier. They make for a much more comfortable room than ceiling fans. dont buy one these heaters mine was wsed for fore mounths and now it quit wrote them they said the tubes are 36.00 plus 6.95 shipping. It just says if you use an Eden Pure heater to do "zone heating"I you will save money. We have really high ceilings. I have a ceramic cube heater I bought 25 years ago for $19.95 that will. Second is that you can lower your thermastat while only heating an inner room. I have read some very interesting posts on this website and one thing I can tell you is, you can spot the smart persons from the not so smart persons. William W. Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. I have a utility room in my barn that requires an electric heater. Some of the comments by others state they have a comfortable house because the bought the heaters and they were 'comfortable'. They were not meant to be used in that manner. There not trying to rip you off or scam you. Even a child knows that hot air rises. Edin Pure has more competition so their price should be competitive if they want to stay competitive. The reason why you can save on your utility bill is because you only heat a limited area of your home instead of heating areas not in use. Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. d.william from Somewhere in the south on December 01, 2011: Good article. You don't need an EdenPURE product to close vents around your home, not in use. I chose not to not knowing how high those three months would be. But I'm sure they will be $94.80 two years from now. When I phoned to know what the cost of a replacement bulb would be a year ago they said they did not have any except to put in new units being shipped which is why I waited til now to look into buying. What a total scam and very disappointed with Bob Vila!! Which means you get 100% of what it cost you. [1], Burkett had received publicity in 2000, after making and then retracting a claim that he had been transferred to Panama for refusing "to falsify personnel records of Governor Bush",[2] and in February 2004, when he claimed to have knowledge of "scrubbing" of Bush's TexANG records. After calling the hardware store that sold the heater was told I would have to contact the company who finally sent a shipping label but the instructions say that you must use the original box. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. Why do you think they would do that? A UNIT is $1000. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 12, 2011: Cold in Mass, you can only run your heater 1 1/2 hours at .17 a kilowatt, not all night. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! However, the bitter cold in the northern states may require you to run it more. Press the space key then arrow keys to make a selection. Furthermore, after you buy the first one they give substantial discounts on future purchases of any of their products. However, your actual price will depend largely on the size and type of heater you choose. PUT A THRMOSTAT IN EACH LARGE ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE THEN INSTALL A SWITCHER TO CONTROL EACH THERMOSTAT IT CUT MY BILL IN HALF. The air leaks are what causes a large waste of energy. Trust me. Don't buy this slick ripoff. I bought Edenpure heater in December 2010 and my january heating bill doubled, and what they sent to me is not what I ordered from them. Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. I purchased several other type of quartz heaters for back up heating source. Now, if that is not a scam, a come on, a lead in, I don't know what it. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. Common sense. I have tried to return it for refund, but had to have the ORIGINAL shipping container, which I do not have after 2+ months, and neither Bass Pro Outlet nor Edenpure will accept the return w/o original shipping box, which Edenpure will NOT sell me because they say they only have one container per heater produced. FACT: Of course it will. I see the infomercial all over DirecTV. I am lucky to have a couple of working ones, they do help, but after reading all the electric experts and cost of cheaper 1500w heaters, I must sadly say, I have been scamed. :). Looked first at a $14.99 ceramic heater that uses 1500 watts and is rated at just over 5000 btu's. Like most people have said, 1500 watts of electric energy is just that, 1500 watts, Doesn't matter if it come out of a $20 Walmart heater or a $400 Eden, it'll do the same thing. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. You are just cutting costs by heating a smaller areasomething you could have done without a $400 space heater. Frankly, I think enough has been said about the EdenPure. I've been in the HVAC field for 40 years. There just selling an alternative that has good and bad points like everything else on the market. You just lay it loose on top so nothing touches it. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 02, 2011: Bob, my main concern is saving ME money. they sent me a RFH one it can to me in pieces they back cover was broken in several pieces. Smart Thermostats. A friend of mine purchased 2 after experiencing my heater. I called customer service and they sent me a prepaid shipping label to return it and they sent me another one. Heat is the movement of air molecules. Its a different volume of air being heated for different applications. It can be on all of the time or set it to the temp you want to keep it at. I would not with a $20-$40 heater from one of the big box stores. EdenPure makes all these claims about saving money, but in their ad they say their $197 Personal heater will heat a room of 300 sq. Light Commercial Heating & Cooling. turning you main source of heat down for the whole house and just warming up the areas you are in with the Eden Pure heater. If you have any questions with any of our products both before or after your purchase, please feel free to contact our customer service department at 1-877-432-8639. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75.The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling . Because heating up a room with electric heat is the most expensive way to do it, simply closing off furnace ducts to unused rooms would result in bigger savings using an EdenPURE, and it would not involve the cost of a new heater. Sorry to sound so negative in my postings here, it's just I hate to see people get taken, especially someone who believes what they are sold on TV infomercials like these. Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. The only way it would have is if I used it exactly like the Eden Pure is supposed to be used. I live on a mountain in Colorado. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. I've found that by partial disassembling them and placing a tiny drop of oil at the motor bearing points they will run for MANY years past their obsolescent date. Electric space heaters fall into four main categories: fan heaters, ceramic, infrared, and oil-filled. I don't think this is a good business now I have a machine that doesn't work. This guy can't read apparently. VERY EXPENSIVE, but interestly enough my sisters was higher and she has a smaller home and a heat pump. If I was Bob Vila I would not put my name on the product if they cannot get anyone to anwser the customer service number or even return your calls. I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). To enhance the gameday experience in the Jim Kelly, Van Miller and Paul Maguire Clubs, a radiant heating system was installed and ready for use during the chilly games of the 2013 season. I havent tried other heaters because Ive been satisfied. F0r reference, 1000 hours is about 42 days of continuous run time. Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. 4) Contrary to this article and many of its posts, the reason why infrared heaters have been so successful is not because of slick marketingprimarily it has been word of mouth. This Ken guy below me is an idiot and so are all those so called engineers that claim you get the same heat from any 1500 watt heater. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. One of the most important features and benefits of the Eden Pure vs one of the $50 that may heat the same space I would not trust most of those $50 heaters or anything that can be turned over easily and I certainly would never leave my home with one of those heaters on. I'm paying $0.17 per KWH, or $2.04 for an 8 hour run per day. Complain all you want the heater works well. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. This may be because their previous forced-air system ductwork had or developed leaks, or something was wrong with air-flow on their system (clogged filters !!) However after studying A LOT of them including Duraflame, and all the current ones on the market, I found Dr. Infrared to be the best comparable for a fraction of the cost of EdenPure, as well as the most highly recommended. Mine stopped working 2nd yr. @$400 no thanks! Answer: Virtually all electric space heaters at Amazon do the same heating job. Question: What is the best portable heater? Caveat emptor. The metal shell of a mobile home is excellent for transferring heat: summer heat outside gets in easily and in the winter inside warmth convects to the outdoors with ease. Investigations into his military service led to the Killian documents controversy. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. After a few weeks it was obvious that this heater is no more efficient than one I can buy mail-order or at Costco for $ 30.00-60,00, so I sent it back at my expense. For those of you who have high summer bills, I saved $1500 over the spring and summer months by setting my thermostat on 80 degrees and using floor fans (not box fans, but those on a stand, those that put out a lot of air). I have been in this house for 10 years, so in 10 years, I have spent just in those 3 months alone $15,000. I often think these celebrities who endorse products do not really check completely into them. The real way to reduce energy costs is to minimize the amount of energy lost by your house. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. The number one reason not to buy a Bio Tech Research Eden Pure is people just like you and me on this site have given specific factual examples being abused after the sale by things which should have been disclosed before the sale. Nothing has changed. Look at memy trusty Lasso heater is only $25 and can easily heat a small room. Conventional water heaters use energyusually either gas or electricityto generate heat. I am glad i took the time to read it and all the interesting and informative comments. Point is, I finally bought a Dr Heater and it works way better than any other heater I have tried in my basement and I tried them all! You should use your own judgement and take some care to buy the right product for you. To reduce how much electricity or gas your hot water uses and bring your bills down, consider these tips: Turn down the thermostat: Many hot water heaters are set to 140 degrees by default, but 120 is plenty hot for most household uses, and creates less of a scalding risk. If you rent, I would go with the DuraFlame at half the price and monitor the use, wear sweats, socks, and you will not only save money, you will be warm enough and have lower bills.+. I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. Of course, they are not as pretty, and being a woman I do want my house pretty, but again if I can save that much money by not using the air until it hits 80 in the house (and BTW the a/c does not stay on long with the fans on). The machine shot out sparks. Had I done that, I believe, without using a calculator, that cost would be $180.00 a month for just the heat on one floor of my home. Debra Breckenridge on September 20, 2011: I bought an Eden hearter last Dec. No its all on the website and in the advert's you've just got to read and understand. I can prove that is nonsense in 3 seconds in my house. I sent it back to get another heater, and GUESS WHAT IT DOESN'T WORK EITHER. Many times, the ductwork system in these homes are the coiled ductwork types that gets holes poked in it, or is otherwise leaky ductwork. You could heat an inner room to 70 degrees with the EdenPure for maybe $60/month ($0.15/kWh * 12 hrs/day * 30 days) while dropping the thermastat on the rest of the house to 50 degrees, reducing your heating bill by 40% (assuming avg temp outside is 20 degrees) saving $200/month on natural gas, thereby saving you about $140/month overall! Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems have absolutely NO component life test data to back-up their component life claims. And, BTW, author of this site, it is SQUARE FEET, not CUBIC as you stated. Was given to me as a gift and I'm looking to buy a second unit for my second floor. Gas pool heaters are rated by Btu (British thermal unit) output. I just received an ad in the mail for a Comfort Furnace, Infrared Heater, that has all the same claims as the Eden Pure and selling for $329.00 (sale price) and a 3 yr warranty. The air movement inside an Edenpure heater is blowing the coldest air on the base of the bulbs and the bulbs cycle on and off frequently. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. There are none so blind as those who will not see. The EP does not outperform the Lasko. So, for this is is great. But remember Edenpure didn't directly claim they would save you money, that was just the testimonials that they scattered throughout the infomercial which claimed savings. Offering Quality Products that are in stock at great prices and top notch Customer Service are our top concerns. I have no complaints. Hi everyone . I could not see any savings at all. He claimed that in 1997, while outside the governor's office in Austin, he overheard a conversation about "wanting to bury George W. Bush's Vietnam service record". My wife and I have found that our electric and gas power bills have gone down by more than half, each (we have a gas furnace) since we started using our Life Smart brand infrared heater. Still use the Edin pure in our basement vs, electric baseboard and it works fine. they will endorse anything for a price . Cold in Northern Alberta on February 25, 2011: If you want negative comments about this heater , a simple Google search will fulfill your needs. has anyone else had this problem and if so can you advise me? I forgot to point out in my other post that I also analyze forced-air systems in commercial bldgs and leaky ductwork systems are sometimes the reason along with poor airflow/clogged filters. If not there could be an additional charge etc,. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 01, 2011: It looks like we are starting another season of the heater scam. 1500w in one heater is not the same as 1500w in another using different tech to generate heat. After reading all the negative reviews posted about the Eden Pure,I called back to cancel my order. I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. A btu is a btu is a btu. I have a 1400 watt heat gun and my wife has a 1800 watt hairdryer. The EdenPURE portable electric heater is a scam by my count. No more, no less. yes my electric bill is higher when i run the eden pure, but my gas bill is greatly lowered, my main furnance mainly runs during the day when we are a work, because i dont like leaving the eden pure running when we are not home. I bought one several years ago and saved like at least 100. on my first electric bill. The infrared light (heat) is then reflected back into the home. Because it works and dose save money especially if you have bad heating in your house. I have a Master of Science degree in Electrical Engineering, so I can tell you with precision that EdenPure's claims are false and misleading.
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